InfoQ Interview: Ron Jeffries on Running, Tested Features
It's not a new idea, in fact, Alistair Cockburn riffed on Ron's theme in "Are iterations hazardous to your project?" Surprisingly, that article starts out with:
Iterations, user stories, and velocity are the very heart of agile development, are they not? If you have those three items in place, then you are by definition doing agile, and on your way to project success. Right?Cockburn went on to talk about "Agile Machismo" (hint: it's not a good thing :-) and then came around to his point of agreement with Jeffries: "The center of agile development is to deliver running, tested features to users and collect feedback." **
The answer is: Wrong
One viewer, who found the video quite useful, commented:
...he explains that the fundamental value of agile is that you it produces information that managers can use to make better decisions, rather than resorting to hitting the programmers with sticks and holding their feet to the fire.(this latter, Jeffries noted, has not been observed to work very well.)
Like many Agile practices: "Running, Tested Features" may be simple, "but it ain't easy" - in this case Jeffries noted that while TDD is an obvious essential for RTF, a less visible but equally essential practice for realising the benefits offered by RTF is what XP calls "Simple Design." Without this, design debt accrues and the pace of work degrades. View the interview for an animated introduction to Jeffries' vision for serious Agility.
Related news: Presentation: Ken Schwaber on Code Quality as a Corporate Asset.
** Correction 2007-02-14: We mistakenly suggested that Ron's idea might be derived from Alistair's post. In fact, going full circle, Alistair had in turn referenced Ron's original 2004 "Running Tested Features" article, called A Metric Leading to Agility. This has now been corrected, above. Apologies for the confusion! [Deb]
link broken
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anjan bacchu
the link "http://www.xprogramming.com/Blog/Page.aspx?display=RunningTestedFeatures" is broken. In fact, if you click on a link that you got on the above URL, you get a stack dump -- which is not good for the site's security!
BR,
~A
Re: link broken
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Deborah Hartmann
Question: what does BR stand for at the end of your note? :-)
deb
Agile overload
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deepak shetty
Re: Agile overload
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David Skelly
do all the agile consultants keep coming up with new ways to say the same thing , introducing new terms and abbreviations for the same matter?
It's not just agile consultants that do this. That is how consultants keep themselves in business and how the whole consultancy wagon keeps on rolling. If you explain things too well, people will start to understand what you are telling them. And once they understand what you're saying, why would they need a consultant any more? So the key is to watch your audience carefully, and as soon as it looks like they're beginning to catch on, hey presto, you change the words you're using. Iterative development is key... no, wait, agile development is key... no, wait, test-driven development is key... no, wait, running tested features are key...
Re: Agile overload
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Graham Wright
I am looking forward to the book.
Good practice always evolves and sometimes that means refining the terminology and emphais
Re: Agile overload
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Graham Wright
:-)
Re: Agile overload
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Jeremy Lemaire
Everybody seems to have forgotten DSDM which has been invented a long time ago. The name was simply not as sexy as XP
Re: Agile overload
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Deborah Hartmann
deb
Re: Agile overload
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deepak shetty
I guess these guys themselves forget the first rule Individuals and interactions over processes and tools preferring to argue over the length of iterations or whether its better to call it a planning window, or the ways to manage agile projects, or tdd or junit or whatever.
deepak
Re: Agile overload
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Ron Jeffries
In the case of this particular expression, it focuses on some things that I think have to a degree been missed in Agile: that it is the responsibility of the business-side people to guide the project, that it is quite possible to make deadlines using Agile, and that there are some behind-the-scenes activities, like design improvement and testing, that are essential to the project.
Do I do it because I might get more business? No, not really, because I'm busy enough as it is. I do it because I care to express myself well, and because I would like for people to understand Agile well enough to make good decisions about whether, and how, to do it.
Re: Agile overload
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Ron Jeffries
Re: Agile overload
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alistair cockburn
Personally, I found the idea of bugs as negative features to be an interesting mapping, and will play with that idea to see if it communicates anything useful to resisting ears (it doesn't reduce bugs in the software, but it may get people to pay attention to them differently).
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