Jesper Boeg on Priming Kanban
In this interview, Jesper Boeg, author of the new InfoQ book – Priming Kanban, discusses the keys to using Kanban effectively, and how to get started if you are currently using other approaches.
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Posted by Scott Delap on Dec 13, 2006
...define a dynamic component framework including component lifecycle for existing Java SE platforms. The dynamic component model will support assembly of applications from components and support implementation detail hiding between components as well as lifecycle management of those components.OSGi itself has been around as a non-JSR specification for some time. Open source implementations include Equinox which forms the foundation for the Eclipse IDE, Felix, and Knopflerfish. Among the key features:
Expert group member Niclas Hedhman broke the news of the public review on his blog. The JSR 291 website has not been updated to reflect this change yet. In the meantime the draft is available for download on the JSR-291 mail archive.
Many industry veterans are watching the progress of this JSR in comparison to JSR 277/294. These JSR's are defining the packaging of modules and dynamic deployment in respect to the upcoming Java 7 Dolphin release. JSR 291 is targeted at existing needs and Java SE platforms. From the specification documentfor 291:
No current JSR (either complete or in process) defines a dynamic component and lifecycle solution to run on top of the existing family of Java SE platforms. However, JSR 232 does include this capability to run on top of Java ME (CDC based platforms) along with a comprehensive set of mobility services.JSR 277 has been filed to examine changes to the static module definition to be used within the Java SE platform for Java 7 (Dolphin) and beyond. JSR 277 is targeted for specification delivery in 2H/2007 with RI/TCK delivery as an integral part of Dolphin in 2008.
This JSR aims to address the current needs for dynamic components based on existing Java SE platforms. When Dolphin becomes available, the specification lead of this JSR will either perform a maintenance release of this JSR or raise a follow on JSR to add Dolphin to the list of compatible supported platforms and to exploit Dolphin technology for static modules, as appropriate.
Concern has been raised about the seemingly overlapping nature of these three JSR's overall. In the meantime industry use of OSGi has continued to increase in application server development and frameworks such as Spring while JSR 291 has been in development.
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The best way to kill this JSR is through votes of the JSR committee. IBM, BEA, Intel, Apache, and Google should be leading the effort to vote no on future deliverables for the JSR. If I count correctly, they should only have to recruit three more 'no' votes to keep this bloat out of Dolphin.
Sorry, to clarify, I am talking about JSR-277. JSR-291 looks like it's coming along nicely. :)
I'm seeing a lot of interest in OSGi these days. I also had the opportunity to interview Adrian Colyer (Interface21) about Spring's OSGi plans and things are looking quite interesting - exposing Spring apps as OSGi bundles will be made fairly easy.
I hope that these two competing efforts don't turn into another Sun vs. IBM + the community debate.
Does anyone know if this is due to a licensing issue with the OSGi?
-Noah
www.noahcampbell.info
Could you clarify what you are referring to in reference to 50k for the RI/TCK? JSR 277 and 294 do not have implementations yet to there is nothing you could purchase. OSGi is an open Java specification. The Eclipse Equinox implementation for instance is open source and has no cost. I really can't think of any way which licensing plays a role in this debate.
The $50K in the JSR 291 filing has nothing to do with OSGi licensing terms. You can see the OSGi spec license at www2.osgi.org/Main/OSGiSpecificationLicense. Something needed to be put in the JSR filing and the $ figure was just an upper bound. I fully expect the RI will come from open source (that is, no cost). The TCK will be licensed at no cost to qualified individuals and open source organizations. Commercial users of the TCK may be charged a fee (capped at $50K per the JSR filing).
Just for reference - is it correct to assume that the OSGI does not have a formal TCK for any of its existing specifications?
Just for reference - is it correct to assume that the OSGI does not have a formal TCK for any of its existing specifications?
No, for example the OSGi Core Specification, referenced by JSR 291, already has a TCK.
Just for reference - is it correct to assume that the OSGI does not have a formal TCK for any of its existing specifications?
No, for example the OSGi Core Specification, referenced by JSR 291, already has a TCK.
Thank you for the clarification.
Is the TCK available to the public?
Is the TCK available to the public?
There are three ways to obtain the OSGi R4 TCK:
I expect the same to be true of the OSGi R4 V4.1 TCK for JSR 291.
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