Groovy gets a contribution from Oracle; ongoing Grails contributions discussed

Posted by Floyd Marinescu on May 17, 2006

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Oracle has recently contributed an extension to the Groovy JMX MBean that will aid in managing Java apps with Groovy.  Oracle sees the ability to use scripting languages and Groovy in particular to administer, monitor, and deploy apps as something the community needs.

An ongoing contribution is currently being discussed between Oracle and the Groovy and Grails leads about Oracle's intention to contribute ongoing engineering and QA resources to the projects.   Oracle will initlally contribute QA teams to make Grails work on Oracle's appserver, and discussions are beginning about donating resources to make the Java Persistence API (JPA) work under Grails (as an alternative to Hibernate).

Groovy is getting a lot of exposure at Java One  and Oracle's Groovy guy Tugdual Grall spoke to InfoQ about Oracle's contribution. "We want to facilitate the development experience so  frameworks like Grails and Ruby on Rails are great at doing this, but while we're interesetd in JRuby, what you need for the enterprise is an IT integration strategy. How is your web app integrated into your organization's IT management and deployment strategy?"   Oracle sees Grails as potentially having better chances for mainstream adoption because "at the end what you generate with Grails is a J2EE app, web container managed and deployed. You can manage it in the same way you manage any other J2EE app."

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   IDE, IDE, IDE

   by Horia Muntean

   Better IDE support for groovy would be nice !

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   Re: IDE, IDE, IDE

   by Tug Grall

   Hello Horia,
   
   I am totally with you on that; but Groovy has already a nice integration with Eclipse to write, run and debug scripts ( groovy.codehaus.org/Eclipse Plugin ).
   
   One of the hard part about the IDE and Groovy is related to one of the benefits of Groovy: it is a dynamic language. So it makes sometimes hard to support some basic features such as code completion are very challenging... How the IDE would know how/what to complete since you are invoking a dynamic method/property that does not exist in the object..
   
   However, I am very very interested to know the kind of features you would like to see for a Groovy editor...
   
   Regards
   Tug blog.grallandco.com

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   Re: IDE, IDE, IDE

   by Horia Muntean

   Hello Tug,
   
   I am aware of the dificulties dynamic languages bring to code completion, refactoring ( some say they are even imposible ) but syntax coloring is not enough.
   
   Partial code completion would be nice, code templates, automatic imports, etc.
   
   Regards,
   Horia

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