Agile in Practice: What Is Actually Going On Out There?
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Re: Agile is the new waterfall
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Zhu David
Our team management is changing to Agile, is there no difference with waterfall??
Re: Agile is the new waterfall
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Shih-gian Lee
Why said like that?
Our team management is changing to Agile, is there no difference with waterfall??
There is a difference. But, many organizations use Agile in waterfall way. The sad part is they don't know about it.
Excellent! Very enlightening!
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Olivier Gourment
Scott presents very interesting results of a Dr Dobbs 2008 survey:
THANKS!
PS: I completely missed the point with Modeling and TDD. Can anybody shed some light on this?
Do you know a report based in a higher number of companies?
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A A
Cheers!
Re: Do you know a report based in a higher number of companies?
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Deborah Hartmann
Re: Dr. Dobb's link is dead
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Deborah Hartmann
Re: Excellent! Very enlightening!
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Carlos Ortega
The basic idea in this sense is that before agile practices, the design was made by taking the requirements as input, applied some techniques and generate the design (and architecture) using models/diagrams as the main output artifact.
While if you use TDD, it comes that the design emerges as consequence of the continuous application and evolution of doing Unit Testing and Refactoring to the code you write.
Re: Excellent! Very enlightening!
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Olivier Gourment
Specifying tests should not prevent people from creating some models? I agree that tests are more important than models, but models are still very often required as an aid to development, team members coordination and maintenance...
I guess I will have to listen to that part again... :-)
Re: Excellent! Very enlightening!
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Perry Hertler
I believe the point Scott was making is that since the majority of professing agilists don't do TDD then TDD is not a good practice and the converse is true for modeling.
The person in audience questioned the validity of the survey because the majority of respondents do detailed documentation. In my opinion, that is a good question and Scott didn't answer it to my satisfaction.
Maybe Scott's point is that the agile practices that are not adopted by the masses should be cut?




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