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Agile Quality: A Canary in a Coal Mine

Posted by Ken Schwaber on Nov 13, 2006 12:00 AM

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   A ray of hope

   Nov 13, 2006 6:26 AM by Cameron Purdy

   I tend to disagree with a lot of the Agile(tm) Consultants(tm) and Speakers(tm), but I really do like the core idea that one can view "Code Quality as a Corporate Asset". Whether or not one can have get "the CEO [to come] into the room and [say]" anything seems about as far-fetched as the other Schwaberisms, but we (anyone writing code -- even test code and example code) should always view "Code Quality as a Corporate Asset", and we should also view it as our craft, i.e. we should build it with great pride of worksmanship. Peace, Cameron Purdy Tangosol Coherence: Clustered Cache

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   The importance of Transparency and Ethics

   Nov 13, 2006 12:29 PM by Noah Campbell

   Great presentation! I have to admit that I too find the Agile(tm) Consultants(tm) and Speakers(tm) to be a bit underwhelming in their rhetoric. Scrum as a management process is what usually draws me to these presentations and the key to this presentation is that Scrum builds in transparency into the process. That's not to say that RUP, Waterfall, etc. can have equal transparency, but short iterations do put the spotlight on potentially ugly practices...and that's the key to the this presentation. What do you do when presented with difficult decisions? In Beck and Schwaber's words: have the courage to do the ethical thing.

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   Re: The importance of Transparency and Ethics

   Nov 13, 2006 4:37 PM by Deborah Hartmann

   Scrum as a management process is what usually draws me to these presentations and the key to this presentation is that Scrum builds in transparency into the process.

   Yes, this emphasis on transparency is one of the things that draws me to Scrum as well. But, as others have said, a good process cannot "fix" shoddy developers. Scrum relies on the team to bring skill and common sense into the mix. We can add: a good process cannot hide or compensate for a lack of coaching ethics. We need good processes and good people. If forced to choose... recent experience suggests: go with the good people :-)

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   Re: The importance of Transparency and Ethics

   Nov 14, 2006 11:45 AM by Noah Campbell

   If forced to choose... recent experience suggests: go with the good people :-)

   Hopefully you're never forced to choose. I think your point about going with good people as a safe bet is that someone will emerge as a leader and put a process in a place.

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