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Fortress - programming for supercomputers

Posted by Guy Steele on Jan 16, 2008 12:23 AM

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Guy L. Steele heads the Sun Programming Language Research Group. He's held positions at Carnegie-Mellon University, Tartan Laboratories, and Thinking Machines Corporation and is the author or co-author of several books on languages (Common Lisp, C, High Performance Fortran, the Java Language Specification) as well as "The Hacker's Dictionary" (also known on the Internet as the "Jargon File").

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Guy L. Steele heads the Sun Programming Language Research Group. He's held positions at Carnegie-Mellon University, Tartan Laboratories, and Thinking Machines Corporation and is the author or co-author of several books on languages (Common Lisp, C, High Performance Fortran, the Java Language Specification) as well as "The Hacker's Dictionary" (also known on the Internet as the "Jargon File").

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Fortress - programming for supercomputers by Mikhail Poda Posted Feb 17, 2008 9:50 AM
Re: Fortress - programming for supercomputers by seonda lier Posted Jun 30, 2008 4:35 AM
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    Fortress - programming for supercomputers

    Feb 17, 2008 9:50 AM by Mikhail Poda

    Your speach looks quite academic. From the purely supercomputing viewpoint you are probaly right. But it mentioned industry and it seems to me that you miss the point if you address industry. Did you know that nowdays fortran is already dead and the schientific computing is not restricted any more to Computer Science Department in the university? Mechanical/Aerospace/Chemical engineers do scientific computing both in the university and in the industry very extensively. There are several million people in this area and almost all of them are using MATLAB+SIMULINK. I can speak for the german academics + automotive/aerospace industry. Actually MATLAB+SIMULINK is a standard in the industry since many years and it already replaced fortran almost everywhere. So you better had to invent a replacement for MATLAB. From your speach I have not seen any advantage of fortress over MATLAB. It looks like you are inventing the same things again. For example a BMW car (I work for BMW) has 20 thousand parameters in its microcontroller and its overall structure has to be simulated and all these parameters have to be numerically optimized. Such new language as standalone makes little sense from the industry standpoint - in order to begin with number crunching you have to get your data from somewhere - read some measurement files in some weird format, show a gui dialog and let the user (yourself) drag a line with mouse to chose another operating point, ecc. So for the industry such new language where interesting only if it were better then MATLAB and would compile to java.

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    Re: Fortress - programming for supercomputers

    Jun 30, 2008 4:35 AM by seonda lier

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