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Developing in a Service-oriented World
Presented by
Gregor Hohpe
on
May 03, 2007
Length 00:58:52
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Summary
Gregor Hohpe debunks many unrealistic claims about SOA and addresses the technical issues, such as the false sense of simplicity, differences to established programming models and the importance of documentation. He also criticizes what he calls "Doodleware", i.e. tools that aim to hide complexity behind a graphical process model notation, and suggests deriving models from running systems.
Bio
Gregor Hohpe is a software architect at Google, author of Enterprise Integration Patterns and a frequent speaker at conferences around the world.
About the conference
JavaZone is a conference on Software Development and Java Technology organized by the javaBin, the Java User Group in Norway. It has a technological profile, and is probably best described as a miniature JavaOne; it usually offers a combination of tuturials, technical talks and an exhibition.
Gregor Hohpe debunks many unrealistic claims about SOA and addresses the technical issues, such as the false sense of simplicity, differences to established programming models and the importance of documentation. He also criticizes what he calls "Doodleware", i.e. tools that aim to hide complexity behind a graphical process model notation, and suggests deriving models from running systems.
Bio
Gregor Hohpe is a software architect at Google, author of Enterprise Integration Patterns and a frequent speaker at conferences around the world.
About the conference
JavaZone is a conference on Software Development and Java Technology organized by the javaBin, the Java User Group in Norway. It has a technological profile, and is probably best described as a miniature JavaOne; it usually offers a combination of tuturials, technical talks and an exhibition.
fluff...
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Mittal Bhiogade
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May 3, 2007 6:30 PM
Re: fluff...
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Alexander Snaps
Posted
May 14, 2007 1:31 AM
Mr. Hohpe's presentation on SOA
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vincent ngu
Posted
May 16, 2007 10:10 PM
Re: Mr. Hohpe's presentation on SOA
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vincent ngu
Posted
May 17, 2007 9:39 PM
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well he did mention what is been done in SOA world and some other fluff but never mentioned what needs to be done to make it better
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Everybody talks about SOA, vendors have their solutions shipping and big companies buying!
I'm probably too stupid, as it took me years to really grasp OOP, but I think it still needs some fundamental rethinking of how we approach problems and then appropriate tools (and maybe programming languages) to achieve the SOA promise.
I've attended this presentation in Oslo and it got me to actually approach SOA which much more confidence (since I was all but confident about it before!). I've already have recommend this presentation a few times since it has been available online. And I believe he raises questions every member of a team thinking about going down the SOA path should have asked themselves.
But, you probably were already looking for answers while I, and I believe many others, still need to figure out the right questions! Well... I hope people do actually question themselves about SOA... -
Mr. Hope (hohpe), we know you have a thousand and one definitions of SOA and why we should hand on to your so called "Power Point" etc. Your insidious remarks about the guys who put this piece of Architecture together was uncalled for. You're simply too green to criticize anyone. No one promise you a magic wane with regards to programming. If you don,t like SOA , then do us a favor: Bug Off.
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Mr. Hope (hohpe), we know you have a thousand and one definitions of SOA and why we should hand on to your so called "Power Point" etc. Your insidious remarks about the guys who put this piece of Architecture together was uncalled for. You're simply too green to criticize anyone. No one promise you a magic wand with regards to programming. If you don,t like SOA , then do us a favor: Bug Off.
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