Tapestry for Nonbelievers
A new article by I. Drobiazko and R. Zubairov introduces v. 5 of the Apache Tapestry component-oriented web framework. The tutorial shows how to create a component and covers IoC in Tapestry and Ajax.
Presentation
Good News: We have re-worked our video infrastructure to provide more reliable service. Please email bugs at infoq.com with any problems.
Recorded at:
The Role of Testing and QA in Agile Software Development
Posted by Scott Ambler on May 03, 2007 04:48 PM
Summary
Agile developers are "test infected", we do test-first development and treat acceptance tests as full-fledged requirements artifacts and work with our stakeholders to acceptance test throughout the dev lifecycle. The end result is significantly higher quality software, achieved with very little input from the testing community. So what is the role of testers and QA people on agile projects?
Bio
Scott Ambler is Practice Leader Agile Development within the IBM Methods group in Ontario, Canada. He has worked in the IT industry since the mid 1980s, with object technology since the early 1990s, and is a recognized leader in the Agile software community. He is a Fellow of the International Association of Software Architects, and an Eclipse Process Framework (EPF) committer. www.ambysoft.com
About the conference
The Toronto Association of Systems and Software Quality (TASSQ) is an organization for Quality Assurance professionals. Their monthly meetings share quality practices and provide an opportunity for networking. The presentations include a wide variety of topics, including testing, project management, risk management, measurement of client satisfaction, other metrics related topics, Year 2000 topics, process improvement, implementing quality practices, etc.
Agile developers are "test infected", we do test-first development and treat acceptance tests as full-fledged requirements artifacts and work with our stakeholders to acceptance test throughout the dev lifecycle. The end result is significantly higher quality software, achieved with very little input from the testing community. So what is the role of testers and QA people on agile projects?
Bio
Scott Ambler is Practice Leader Agile Development within the IBM Methods group in Ontario, Canada. He has worked in the IT industry since the mid 1980s, with object technology since the early 1990s, and is a recognized leader in the Agile software community. He is a Fellow of the International Association of Software Architects, and an Eclipse Process Framework (EPF) committer. www.ambysoft.com
About the conference
The Toronto Association of Systems and Software Quality (TASSQ) is an organization for Quality Assurance professionals. Their monthly meetings share quality practices and provide an opportunity for networking. The presentations include a wide variety of topics, including testing, project management, risk management, measurement of client satisfaction, other metrics related topics, Year 2000 topics, process improvement, implementing quality practices, etc.
RelatedVendorContent
Fighter Jets and Agile Development at Lockheed Martin (Case study)
Delivering a Breakthrough Java ™ Computing Experience
IBM Agile Development eKit: Free Articles, Expert Q&A, Educational Resources
Related Sponsor
VersionOne is recognized by Agile practitioners as the leader in Agile project management tools. Companies such as Adobe, BBC, CNN, Dow, HP, IBM, Sony and 3M have turned to VersionOne to help deliver greater value to their customers.
i can rename column :P
by
Rave Man
Posted
May 4, 2007 12:33 AM
I remember this talk...
by
Bruce Rennie
Posted
May 4, 2007 8:47 AM
IBM's view on "traceability"
by
Rajesh Duggal
Posted
May 11, 2007 11:26 AM
-
i can rename column just like that, you just have to rename it in hibernate mapping xml file. people forget that we all are using ORM.
-
and found the reaction in the audience to be pretty amusing. Heck, it was even brought up at later meetings. Way to make a lasting impression, Scott! As a person who's been involved in agile projects for several years now, Scott's comments were right on. A friend of mine (who's also been involved in agile projects for years) and I would often have conversations about exactly this topic. Often the discussion would turn to our disappointment at the contributions of the testers to the project. Occasionally, we would work with a tester who "got it" and things would be wonderful, but this was the exception rather than the rule. Personally, I think "we" (developers) bear part of the blame here. We've treated testers and testing as an afterthought, as second class citizens for so long that perhaps they shouldn't be blamed for sticking to their comfort zones. After all, in a lot of corporate or non-agile shops, being an aggressive, dynamic, flexible tester isn't always a career enhancing thing. I'm beginning to believe that the only difference between a tester and a developer in an agile team is their mind-set. Developers always tend to be optimists, even on agile teams. Testers are our pessimists. Beyond that, in terms of skills, they really should be identical.
-
I wonder when IBM will decide if traceability is a good thing to track and measure or not. Rational RequisitePro http://www.ibm.com/software/awdtools/reqpro/ "Provides detailed traceability views that display parent/child relationships and show requirements that may be affected by upstream or downstream change" Yet, Mr. Ambler of the IBM Methods groups gives thumbs down to traceability. -- It was really confusing, and mischievously fun, to debate with "IBM Rational tools" believers against Scott's AgileModeling.com concepts. I guess IBM isn't in the business of selling paper and pens and whiteboards and markers. I hope Ambler wins, with AUP... http://www.ambysoft.com/unifiedprocess/agileUP.html Go,go,go! :) Raj.
3 comments
Reply