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Panel: The Future of Programming Languages
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Summary
Guy Steele, Douglas Crockford, Josh Bloch, Alex Payne, Bruce Tate, and Ted Neward (moderator) hold a discussion on the future of programming. Topics included: the future beyond functional, running JVM/CLR on many cores, what is the future of type checking and type systems, languages for education, comparing DSLs and ubiquitous languages, proving code correctness, functional and parallelism.
Bio
Guy Steele was involved in the creation or standardization of Lisp, Scheme, C, Fortran, EcmaScript, Java, and Fortress. Douglas Crockford is the author of "JavaScript: The Good Parts", the creator of JSON. Josh Bloch led the design of core parts of the JDK. Alex Payne is the co-author of Programming Scala. Bruce Tate is author of "Seven Languages in Seven Weeks".
About the conference
Strange Loop is a developer-run software conference. Innovation, creativity, and the future happen in the magical nexus "between" established areas. Strange Loop eagerly promotes a mix of languages and technologies in this nexus, bringing together the worlds of bleeding edge technology, enterprise systems, and academic research. Of particular interest are new directions in data storage, alternative languages, concurrent and distributed systems, front-end web, semantic web, and mobile apps.
Nov 24, 2010
Community comments
Multiparadigm
by Marco Ramirez,
Re: Multiparadigm
by Esen Esen,
Languages / Applications getting more complex not easier
by Brett Miller,
Most apps are web apps? Hardly
by Charles McKnight,
Re: Most apps are web apps? Hardly
by Alex Miller,
Re: Most apps are web apps? Hardly
by Slobojan Ryan,
Mainframes are "relatively simple computers"?
by Charles McKnight,
Transcript?
by Andy Clapham,
more sloppy support please
by paavo ovaap,
Multiparadigm
by Marco Ramirez,
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One of the things overlooked, is that programming languages are taking several programming paradigms / DSL at the same time.
Programming languages are no longer just procedural, or functional, or object oriented, whatever, they allow to combine several paradigms.
Languages / Applications getting more complex not easier
by Brett Miller,
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There is certainly a rise in the complexity of languages plus most software applications now require multiple languages/technologies to accomplish given functionality. In order for programming to be easier, this needs to be simplified, but (if anything) the trend is for technologies to become more complex.
Brett Miller
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Most apps are web apps? Hardly
by Charles McKnight,
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Depending on how the word "app" is misdefined, I'm pretty sure that there is no way to authoritatively make the statement that most apps are web apps. Unless you're a marketer trying to sell something.Bloch is obviously selling the web apps dogma.
Re: Most apps are web apps? Hardly
by Alex Miller,
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Yeah, Josh Bloch is totally a shill for selling web apps.
<eyeroll/>
Yeesh.
Mainframes are "relatively simple computers"?
by Charles McKnight,
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OK, so Alex does qualify his statement, but it's an uninformed statement.
Re: Most apps are web apps? Hardly
by Slobojan Ryan,
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Yeah, if the word "app" is defined to mean "appetizer", then it's clearly incorrect. :P
Let's flip this around - in your opinion, what would you say most applications are? Desktop apps? Embedded apps? Web apps? Console apps? My opinion coincides with Josh's - most apps that I see being worked on nowadays are web apps in one way or another, and that's because so much value is tied to an application being accessible on the Internet. Mobile apps tend to follow the same trend, and seem to almost always have a server-side component (even games now usually have communities rolled into them, e.g. OpenFeint or Game Center on iOS).
Transcript?
by Andy Clapham,
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It would be great to get a transacript of this - InfoQ used to provide a lot of transacriptions, but they seem to be offering fewer for new content. Any particular reason?
Wonder if we could use DotSub to collaboratively transcribe InfoQ content?
more sloppy support please
by paavo ovaap,
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I for one expect more support for much more sloppier code than we have ever seen. platforms will have to support entirely arbitrary timings for events.
Re: Multiparadigm
by Esen Esen,
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