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Leaner Programmer Anarchy

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Fred George presented at JavaOne with Martin Fowler, and assisted in XP Immersion sessions with Kent Beck, Ron Jeffries, and Robert Martin. Fred spent a year as a visiting lecturer at N.C. State University teaching Java programming to over 800 undergraduates. He joined ThoughtWorks in 2003, then he joined Forward in 2007, bringing Agile practices to all aspects of the business.

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Mar 24, 2011

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  • it reminded me "Quando o scrum começcou a atrapalhar" by Caelum

    by Antonio Carlos de Souza /

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    At 24:30 the presentation makes me remember a Guilherme Silveira's presentation, from Caelum, "Quando o scrum começcou a atrapalhar"

    www.infoq.com/br/presentations/quando-scrum-pas...

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    AC

  • Conclusion

    by Jeff Hain /

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    Stop trying to educate your managers, just get rid of them.

  • Re: Conclusion

    by Bob MacNeal /

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    +1 Sweet!

  • Inspiring Talk

    by Bob MacNeal /

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    Wow. Many truths spoken here. This talk is pivotal and could well be the antidote to what many developers experience in toxic organizations: Agile-off-the-rails

    Two nit-picky criticisms:
    1. Don't use the word "lean" or "leaner". Lean is for machines, not people.
    2. Never refer to people as "resources" (e.g., Resource Rumble).

  • Re: Conclusion

    by Assaf Stone /

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    Hmm... And after you got rid of all of the managers, will the developers draw up the contracts, get the customers, take care of payment and other administration stuff?
    That's like the branches cutting off the trees.

    No, there's a reason that managers are needed (as much as I hate to admit that), and they do need to learn how not to get in the way of progress...

  • Re: Conclusion

    by Bob MacNeal /

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    Assaf,
    Yes, many organizations need sales and administration. But unless managers are carrying water for the developers or clearing impediments, I haven't experienced demonstrable value w/ managers.

  • Re: Re: Conclusion

    by Jeff Hain /

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    Assaf,
    As pointed out in www.bcs.org/upload/pdf/complexity.pdf, p.14 (13th one), software is "invisible", at least for people that don't practice it, as are mathematical spaces for non-mathematicians.
    The main reason I see for managers being possibly harmful, is that they often don't practice development enough, if at all, and have therefore decisional responsibilities in a very complex and subtle field of which they don't understand the constraints and the possibilities.
    As for drawing up contracts, getting customers, etc., of course there is room for specialized people here, but they need to work in close relationship with software guys.

  • Today's Dilbert seems to have gotten inspired by this :)

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