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Manager's Introduction to Test-Driven Development

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An IT professional since 1977, Dave has been a dedicated practitioner and ardent proponent of change toward Agile and Lean thinking and practices since 2002. Karl is a versatile software practitioner with a wide range of skills, including development, project management, team leadership, coaching and training.

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Agile 2008 is an exciting international industry conference that presents the latest techniques, technologies, attitudes and first-hand experience, from both a management and development perspective, for successful Agile software development.

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Nov 27, 2008

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  • Shoddy and Lame

    by Bob Marshall /

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    Poor video production, poorly prepared speakers, and misses the central point of TDD - its role as a design tool.

    Shameful.

  • Original exercise

    by Ole Friis /

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    For those who want to see what inspired the two guys:

    www.clarkeching.com/2006/04/test_driven_dev.html

    Personally, though, I think the exercise is too technical for managers, and it's actually a great example of TDD not automatically giving you a neat solution without a lot of sweat (which is how reality works sometimes, unfortunately :-) )...

    I once saw a very convincing presentation of RSpec by Aslak Hellesøy, and I sat next to a very non-technical colleague. She got really excited about TDD (or, rather, BDD) from the presentation, so I think RSpec is a much better platform for such a presentation than Excel/VBScript. Your opinion may differ.

  • Re: Shoddy and Lame

    by Ole Friis /

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    I don't agree. I actually think Karl and Dave give pretty good arguments for managers - remember, the target audience is managers, not us technicians. But even though I'm a technician, I can still use the points from the presentation, as I often have to deal with managers and convince them that TDD is the right thing to do.

  • Re: Shoddy and Lame

    by Rafael Guedes /

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    Great presentation! Congratulations!

  • Re: Shoddy and Lame

    by clarke ching /

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    Bob wrote:
    > Poor video production, poorly prepared speakers, and misses the central point of TDD - its role as a design tool.

    Bob, to be quite blunt: your comment was rude, thoughtless and unhelpful.

    Clarke

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