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Presentation: Gregor Hohpe on Developing in a Service-oriented World

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May 03, 2007 less than one minute

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In this presentation, Gregor Hohpe debunks many unrealistic claims about SOA and addresses the technical issues, such as the false sense of simplicity, differences to established programming models and the importance of documentation.  He also criticizes what he calls "Doodleware", i.e. tools that aim to hide complexity behind a graphical process model notation, and suggests deriving models from running systems.

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  • fluff...

    by Mittal Bhiogade,

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    well he did mention what is been done in SOA world and some other fluff but never mentioned what needs to be done to make it better

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  • Re: fluff...

    by Alex Snaps,

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    Everybody talks about SOA, vendors have their solutions shipping and big companies buying!

    I'm probably too stupid, as it took me years to really grasp OOP, but I think it still needs some fundamental rethinking of how we approach problems and then appropriate tools (and maybe programming languages) to achieve the SOA promise.

    I've attended this presentation in Oslo and it got me to actually approach SOA which much more confidence (since I was all but confident about it before!). I've already have recommend this presentation a few times since it has been available online. And I believe he raises questions every member of a team thinking about going down the SOA path should have asked themselves.

    But, you probably were already looking for answers while I, and I believe many others, still need to figure out the right questions! Well... I hope people do actually question themselves about SOA...

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  • Mr. Hohpe's presentation on SOA

    by vincent ngu,

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    Mr. Hope (hohpe), we know you have a thousand and one definitions of SOA and why we should hand on to your so called "Power Point" etc. Your insidious remarks about the guys who put this piece of Architecture together was uncalled for. You're simply too green to criticize anyone. No one promise you a magic wane with regards to programming. If you don,t like SOA , then do us a favor: Bug Off.

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  • Re: Mr. Hohpe's presentation on SOA

    by vincent ngu,

    Your message is awaiting moderation. Thank you for participating in the discussion.

    Mr. Hope (hohpe), we know you have a thousand and one definitions of SOA and why we should hand on to your so called "Power Point" etc. Your insidious remarks about the guys who put this piece of Architecture together was uncalled for. You're simply too green to criticize anyone. No one promise you a magic wand with regards to programming. If you don,t like SOA , then do us a favor: Bug Off.

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