Should Architects Code? Agile Ones Do!

Yes :)

Even if its just a little bit.

James
LogicBlaze
Fuse: the Open Source SOA runtime

Not sure if he is agile or not, but I know an architect guy coding every time he can (and he always finds the time to do it) :-).

./alex
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Martin Fowler, which is probably one of the most known and influential software architects of our time, writes in his reviewed version of "The new methodology" (www.martinfowler.com/articles/newMethodology.html):

"The problem with a UML-like design is that it can look very good on paper, yet be seriously flawed when you actually have to program the thing."

and

"errors in the design that are often only uncovered during coding and testing. Even skilled designers, such as I consider myself to be, are often surprised when we turn such a design into software."

In our company one of the main benefit of agile, was that all people rebecame programmers, with the same rights. No more tester, analysts, architects etc. No more names. This put everyone in the same position, everyone designs, everyone tests, everyone designs. Soon enough some started to prove themselves better then others in certain aspects, by proving in front of the whiteboard and in code. They gained the respect of the others, by showing that they can do, not by being appointed or named by higher management. The design and code with the others but when they come with a design idea, because the others saw what they are capable of tend to accept it easier and embrace the ideas faster then when they had to do thing just because the ones that came with them were "the architects".

There is no more us vs them, and everyone can have objections. Since this big obstacle is out of the way, motivation is at its highest and work is done faster.

I think at the very least an architect should know how to code to some degree and be familiar with, if not proficient, in the language of code being implemented.

One of the better architects I've worked with knew architecture very well but he could program when he needed to. Granted, he didn't very often, but he knew enough that he could and by doing so, he communicated with the developers very well when it came time to implement his designs.

I remember being in a company long ago where they had these architect guys come in, draw all the lines and bubbles and then leave to do the same on some other project, while us developers had to then implement their designs. I think Agile is causing the demise of these ivory tower architects, since now all the key stakeholders need to be involved in the project in each iteration.

I don't think one could be a good architect without knowing how to code. The problem with coding however is that it tends to be forgotten if not exercised.

Loaded question!

Whenever needed, yes.

I have no doubt that most competent ones, who have a passion for the profession, do, and there is no way anyone can stop them from doing so. How else can one learn?

Again, should the architect lay the brick and mortar?

Seems extreme, but then there are project situations, when any kind of problem (be it due to bad planning, lack of ownership, or lousy competence) can be classified as a "technical" problem at an appropriate forum, and an "architect's" involvement is sought (fix this problem yourself) because...after all architects should code, right :-) ?

So, then, it depends on who is asking the question?

Are you a "manager", Scott :-)? Just kidding..

Cheers,
Ashok Shetty.

There is something that is confusing me somehow:
1) if they knew how to code, why are they hating it so much so they are not doing it anymore?
2) if they haven't known how to code, how they have reached the architect title?
I really think that in both cases, there is something fishy about these "architects".

./alex
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You're not the first to notice this bad smell, Alex :-)

Some places wouldn't hire an "architect" without a modeling and coding interview with a senior developer. And even then, he'd have to accept relinquishing his special title - even the best are called Senior Developers in places like that :-)

deb

of course an arquitect has to code, i dont see another way of make a project successful if the "best" ideas are not coded by his author...

Do you assume, then, that the "best" idea is not likely to come from a new team member or a junior developer or even a tester? If you have hired well, you are missing some opportunities, there, imo :-)