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The Trouble With Types
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Summary
Martin Odersky outlines the main categories of static type systems as well as some new developments, and discuss the tradeoffs they make.
Bio
Martin Odersky is co-founder of Typesafe, the creator of the Scala programming language, and a professor in the programming research group at EPFL, the leading technical university in Switzerland. He wrote javac, the compiler used by the majority of today's Java programmers, and scalac, the compiler used by the fast-growing Scala community. He authored "Programming in Scala", a best-seller.
About the conference
Strange Loop is a multi-disciplinary conference that aims to bring together the developers and thinkers building tomorrow's technology in fields such as emerging languages, alternative databases, concurrency, distributed systems, mobile development, and the web.
Oct 28, 2013
Community comments
Interesting developments for Scala in the works, it seems
by Faisal Waris,
Re: Interesting developments for Scala in the works, it seems
by Alan Johnson,
Dotty the cat - Scala's daughter
by Alexander Semenov,
Re: Dotty the cat - Scala's daughter
by Nick Linker,
What does this mean for Scalaz?
by Ryan Riley,
Interesting developments for Scala in the works, it seems
by Faisal Waris,
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Scala will probably undergo some significant changes until it settles down. Making the type system simpler is all for the better.
Personally, Type Classes make sense in Haskell but I was not sure about the need for higher kinded types in languages with OO features. From Odersky's talk it seems you can do without them in Scala and thereby reduce complexity.
Dotty the cat - Scala's daughter
by Alexander Semenov,
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Thank you, Martin. Now I know which name to give to my cat Scala' daughter.
Re: Interesting developments for Scala in the works, it seems
by Alan Johnson,
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I totally agree! If this is the direction Scala is headed, then bravo! It needs to get a bit more opinionated, because it's tough to constantly switch modes between all the different paradigms it has. I've been working with Scala a lot over the past few months, but I don't feel like I actually know the "real" Scala. This refinement seems quite elegant!
Re: Dotty the cat - Scala's daughter
by Nick Linker,
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ROFL
What does this mean for Scalaz?
by Ryan Riley,
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Scalaz uses higher-kinded types extensively. How will the proposed changes impact that project? Will it be able to adapt all of its libraries completely? Will it have to change a number of its implementations?